Not necessarily in the immediate future, but at some point in. I would…For me, a simple conclusion is that the best laserdisc audio was better than the best DVD audio, and that the typical laserdisc audio was also better than the typical DVD audio. Tetsuryu • 1 yr. Are laser discs worth anything? How much are LaserDiscs worth? Note that these are not necessarily the most valuable LaserDiscs in the world; rather, they represent the 100 LDs on the LaserDisc Database that have the highest current bids. This >begs the question, if its your media, how are theyFinally got my laserdiscs out of storage at my father-in-law's place, now that my laserdisc player is set up. The Record Parlour in Hollywood is only a few blocks from Amoeba and also at least occasionally has Laserdiscs; if you're hitting Amoeba, you may as well check there too, since they're only about 5 minutes away from each other. you can find someone with a PAL laserdisc player to record it on to DVD-R, you. DONT RARE BLOODSPORT. Well precisely they're like 11. The "most valuable" discs are pretty much all mainstream junk you can get on Bluray for $9. Dude, so you don’t anything about laserdiscs? No wonder every answer has been “I don’t know. 99 Used. S. Knocksville, TN. Laserdiscs are an optical medium while RCA uses a physical needle, so they are in no way compatible. [deleted] • 5 yr. I'd like to sell it but I have no idea how to value it. Think a crappy record or cassette player VS a high end. Again, the main limiting factors will be the source materials and the mastering. Who is online: Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 3 guests. $49. #6 of 19. 1 set of. Last edited: Feb 14, 2021. Step forward to the present day and Ultra HD Blu-ray enthusiasts will tell you much the same thing. LaserDiscs that are still sealed and in mint or new condition are worth more money. How much are your Disney LaserDiscs worth? Use our archive of Disney items sold at auctions as a Music Price Guide. Zavvi Affiliate Commissions Earned. There may well be discs "worth" $20 in there, but whatever. Minority niches were well served too; fans of anime were in seventh heaven. Manually wrap it up then just brown paper wrap your ghetto packaging. The Lion King. Star Wars Return Of The Jedi - 2-LD Set Laserdisc - 1992. The retailer sells directly to the public. Another new disc today as I continue my tour through 70s rock. John Micheal - July 25, 2023. will play on a PAL DVD player. Menu eBay. Worth the investment? comments. It is one of humankind’s greatest achievements. A Lumagen processor offers quality at least on-par with the Crystalio, and will scale to 4K. If you're looking to experience the true Star Wars in its original, virtually unaltered form, the best option is to find an old film reel. co. Also, since Laserdiscs can only hold up to 60 minutes per side, most discs have to be flipped or changed eventually. Oh. If only it wasn’t $400 on eBay. The UK combination DVD / Laserdisc players were DVL 909 and DVL 919E. The less pure alcohol, that stuff that's common now, it's about 67 %, it's less desirable. Don't think I'd ever actually watch it, maybe once if. Let me know if you want to get rid of anything. The only laserdisc players that are worth anything are the Pioneer's and only the best ones are worth a lot. Yes, you can get your laserdiscs onto your PC with your existing hardware. Occasionally there are genres or formats that we are overstocked in and we will stop buying them for a time. orsetto. Vampire Journals, for example, is in 25 peoples collections, so it's pretty rare by laserdiscs standards. ago. In fact, it was my first time I ever saw SW LD in person before. If none of the above helps, then it's something with the player. Honestly the quality looks amazing with the HD up scaling method the TV performs. Board index » Laserdisc (movies, music, documentaries, anything) » General discussions - Laserdisc All times are UTC LD-G laserdiscs, worth getting a player/de-coder???Are laserdiscs worth getting or am I better off with DVDs? Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by AxC. $49. I almost never buy anything for more that retail. AC-3 is stored as a radio frequency on disc and then has to be demodulated into a compatible 1's and 0's bitstream for use on an Dolby decoder. All times are UTC . >the way back to 1984with anything more than a soft >cloth to remove dust and minor fingerprints. There were stories back in the late. I got into this format thinking most things were cheap. In Japan, one of the last models to be produced even had the ability to play DVDs as well as CDs and Laserdiscs. It contains alignenment test signals and soundracks , etc. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. I really really doubt it has anything to do with region whatsoever. belts are easy to find replacement parts for but anything else. Physical media is worth our time because it witnesses our history. As for Disney laserdiscs offered in general, I think it's hard to tell whether they're worth buying - as long as there is no additional info. 000 NOK, around 2400 dollars. 99 USD on 12 Nov 2023 (Buy It Now) LaserDisc. Are old Laserdiscs worth anything? Some LaserDiscs can be worth $250+ See what your LaserDiscs are worth “For generic titles, it’s generally 50 cents to a buck, and the most I pay for just about anything is a buck. Diana Ross 2 Laserdiscs Stolen Moments 1993 & in Concert at Ceasars Palace 1979. You cannot post new topics in this forum. LaserDiscs and DVDs have some significant differences that are worth noting. If it's a movie you like a lot, you could always get a Vinyl Record frame and put the LD in it and hang it on a wall if you have the space. The only one who will have the right. However, because of the Archive Collection Disney Laserdiscs I'm considering getting one. DVD has much higher storage capacity, better picture quality, and a lower cost than LaserDiscs. On the software side the Japanese laserdisc's and packaging are in general superior to the USA equivalent. It’s a good story. com. Click to expand. This release. S. I own some of the rarest LD's, and if you ask anyone, myself included at this point, they aren't worth that much. Ur gonna need to be willing to spend some serious money on this1165 posts · Joined 2001. MCA purchased the Gregg patents in 1968. A lot of the DW dvds were worth buying for the extras, even some of the weaker stories like The Gunfighters or The Sensorites have great documentaries on the dvds. it was given to me six years ago and now it won't open at all. Blue, green, etc. Are old LaserDiscs worth anything? Did you inherit a box of old LaserDiscs from a relative, snag a few from a garage sale, or stumble across a stack in your basement? Your old LDs might be worth up to $250 or. Note that just because a print had a Dolby or DTS track does not mean that the AC3 or DTS track is identical. Are LaserDiscs players worth anything? How much are LaserDiscs worth? Note that these are not necessarily the most valuable LaserDiscs in the world; rather, they represent the 100 LDs on the LaserDisc Database that have the highest current bids. I paid about $1 each and sold 10 on ebay for $3-20, with another 10-15 sitting on ebay, with no watchers. The tweaked CLD-97 was second and not far behind that (and this was on a 100 inch screen) were the CLD-99 and the Pioneer Elite CLD-79 and Pioneer 704. Mostly test signals is what is written on the back. Here are estimated values and real-world sale prices for a selection of notable magazines. Doesn’t mean 99. Pioneer CLD-D604 Laserdisc LD/CD Player Tested Works NO Remote 1995 (CT) $169. ago. video. Next › Last » Sort: End date: newest first LaserDisc Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon S Movie Ver Laser Disc With Obi Japan VC Sold for 95. Depth of frame is the only concern, I would think. It is 79 cents in insurance and I am still up on it as the PO has destroyed 1 50 dollar disc, and has lost 1 100 dollar toy. Reading all these posting on Laserdisc, I now wonder if there’s any chance of getting at least 1 manufacturer to produce a new Laserdisc player with up-to-date features (like image up-rez) to enhance LD playback to something close to modern day picture quality standards. Rock 'N' Rolls Greatest Years 67 vol 2 VAL-3112 has a very good looking and sounding odd unnatural edit of 5/24/67 Wind Cries Mary. Any major feature film has most likely been reissued on DVD and will look and sound substantially better there or on Blu-ray. Lack of use is a killer for a lot of the mechanical parts in those players. Advertisement Coins. It was a total package, a wonder of text, image and sound. The digital re-release of Timerider isn't too expensive, last I saw it was about 40 bucks, but add like 30~ bucks on top of that and suddenly it's a 70 dollar laserdisc and I don't. I hate it with a passion and was happy when DVD finally became. This format was generally called LD-G. The only laserdisc players that are worth anything are the Pioneer’s and only the best ones are worth a lot. As you can see, collectors are only willing to pay around $20 to $50 for many of the top wish list items. Mountain View, CA. Format: LaserDisc. Advertisement Coins. Type list disk and hit “Enter”. So no, 12x12 should work. Here are some real-world videotape values. On one of the laserdisc forums I'm on some people claim this stuff is uncommon yet I've ran into at least 6 or 8 times already on Ebay. AU $50. Players were even more expensive. Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:52 pm. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. Half Price Books will give you about a nickel per disc. And LD is a far better source if you want to capture and re-encode for digital. 1 2 3 4 5. After the invention of VHS, but before DVD took over as. , Feb 15, 2014. Laserdiscs vary -- older ones most certainly look worse than VHS, which despite it's ubiquity is IMO the worst home video format for quality. 99 shipping. Pioneer Electronics—one of the format's largest supporters/investors—was also deeply involved in the karaoke business in Japan, and used LaserDiscs as the storage medium for music and additional content such as graphics. Retailers may source from multiple distributors, so they theoretically can get you anything that is in print (or in a warehouse somewhere). The picture quality is noticeably superior, and it also has more advanced sound options such as surround. Post subject: Re: LD-G laserdiscs, worth getting a player/de-coder??? Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:52 pm . The book is 12″ by 12″. The 11 most valuable LaserDiscs for Last Month. For the DVL-909 I saw japanese auctions as low as US $130, the best on ebay. 92 shipping. Even though many talk about loving them still, no one is wanting to actually pay anything for them. However, the other non Jimi material on the LD is excellent 6. I sold my player and about 100 discs on here 4-5 years ago, the discs are worth around £1-2 each and very collectible discs maybe £5-25ea. collected an extensive amount of laserdiscs and I need a replacement. 99. thanks ! DouglasRobert: 08-16-03 03:49 PM: I would say the best bet is to check e-bay. MOST laserdiscs have DIGITAL sound and are much better sounding than the standard DVD, which have COMPRESSED digital tracks. She Ain't Worth It (with Bobby Brown) 3. Limited Issue:. The book contains staff interviews, production materials, story recaps, a glossary, comprehensive character bios, a mech guide, and pages upon pages of art. We discuss anything having to do with laserdiscs. Sold for 59. 60 USD on 17 Nov 2023. Post subject: Disney Laserdiscs - Are They Worth It? Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:14 pm . We discuss anything having to do with laserdiscs. Post subject: Re: Which Laserdiscs have the best picture quality? Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:45 pm. Laser Video Guide Summer / Fall 1998 Vol. And so the first act of our adventure was complete. Laserdisc player CD performance tends to be anything between very good and stunning. There are titles that aren't educational pop up. or Best Offer. Would they be worth buying for collecting purposes? items - Get great deals on PS2, Sega Master System items on eBay. It is. Tales of Erotica (1996) LASERDISC Mira Sorvino Anthology Film Rare. There’s MUCH better players for $400. 00, this is the 3rd or 4th time it has been listed, opening bid is $60, so the market right now won't even support $60 dollars right now. It is a THX system demonstration laser disc. Kyrsten Brad. 99 or maybe around $99. The 11 most valuable LaserDiscs for Last Month. Before DVDs came along, laserdiscs were the gold standard of audio/video quality. documentaries, anything. Last visit was: Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:40 pm: It is currently Sun Jul 09, 2023 12:40 pmQ:Will all Players play CD's: A:Yes,almost all players will play CD's. Megadeth Rusted Pieces Japan Laserdisc with OBI Metallica LD Laser. • 3 mo. The LaserDisc ( LD) is a home video format and the first commercial optical disc storage medium, initially licensed, sold and marketed as MCA DiscoVision (also known simply as. Worth it just to hear Grace Slick: Laserdiscs look really nice on mine too, I have them running through a scaler and they are totally watchable. invenio78. I bought music laserdics only from a large stack at a garage sale. The problem was he really thought they were all worth at least what they were worth when sold new back in the day. I sold about 300 laserdiscs a few years ago. $9. Unbelievably fascinating and beautiful film, already an an time favorite. And they break easier than other things in the mail so at the moment its not worth the risk. was looking for recommendations, or if it is possible to fix it. If I am looking at something and I see something worth money, as in 30 plus I dont mind. And I'm unsure which high end models even do what my lx-900 does by getting rid of the interference in the video. , Feb 15, 2014. Hi all, I don't own any Disney Laserdiscs myself and I don't have a Laserdisc player. #1. You can find out anything on the Net. I don't think the varying heights thing is right. The LD release comes with a book. Are laserdiscs worth getting or am I better off with DVDs? Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by AxC. The Lion King. 85 shipping. They introduced the video disc in 1973. OK, I don't feel bad in buying it and eBay confirming its low prices. How much did the average movie cost in the 90s? 44. Killer Klowns from Outer Space is one such example, as a LaserDisc copy recently fetched $200 on eBay. Not only is the TV much higher resolution than the laserdisc, it’s also much larger than anyone would have ever watched it in the 80’s or 90’s and it still holds up. S. The 2006 DVDs are the same non-anamorphic transfers from the LDs, so they technically they’re of about the same quality. For reference, DVD component uses native 0 IRE black. The classic laws of supply and demand dictate the market: if a lot of collectors want a given LD, but there are few to be found, they become more valuable. Too unfathomably expensive to be anything other than an indulgence of the wealthy or obsessive, they never really gained a foothold in the western world. Emphasize the word, “rare”. VHS: 240 lines. 0 bids. Nov 29, 2010. Good titles - Goodfellas, Apocalypse Now, Spinal Tap, etc. I have two laserdisc. HDDVD players and discs are much better than laserdisc and are worth about the. 2 /5 - Medium rot: still can be watched but speckles are becoming distracting. At least more so than from Japan. 5- to . - just about anything. Laserdisc looks okay on modern displays; but they were never designed to be used on anything larger than a 32" 4:3 tv. 2290 W El Camino Real. Betamax tapes can sell for up to $20 or more. I am covered on storage, and master backup storage for post. “I think we were the last to grow up without the internet, cellphones or social media,” and clinging to. 66 looks pretty bad on an 80" screen from 7 feet away), so I look for films where no letterbox version exists, open matte versions, or where it was made in 4:3 to begin with. It has more inpurities and that's muchas malo. It's only worth collecting for the rare videos that weren't reissued as DVD/BDs or digital formats. The U. (. I'm using muilti-region and most of my discs are NTSC just like my VHS and DVD players and collection which has no problems. Type the command select disk 0 and hit “Enter”. This pressing uses the Super NTSC process and has amazing color and detail. ago. But don't be surprised if it's not worth much or anything for that matter. However, because of the Archive Collection Disney Laserdiscs I'm considering getting one. , Feb 15, 2014. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Disney's The Little Mermaid Laser Disc Restored Widescreen Masterpiece at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!Post subject: Re: LD-G laserdiscs, worth getting a player/de-coder??? Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:03 am . Certainly is worth a mention _____ CLD-R7G CLD-D590 VSA-E07 AC3RF+DTS iScan DUO Processor. , Feb 15, 2014. As for Disney laserdiscs offered in general, I think it's hard to tell whether they're worth buying - as long as there is no additional info. Im a hardcore Disney fan and while i wont play them, this guy is selling a few of them for next to nothing. Shops that Sell Laserdiscs in the UK? Page 1 of 1 [ 18 posts ] Previous topic | Next topic: Author Message; hippiedalek: Post subject: Shops that Sell Laserdiscs in the UK? Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:16 am . This device is super antiquated but a legend in its rank. Ended. Does anyone still collect these things? I recently got rid of my combo player but I don't know what to do with the crates of LDs I still have. I recall paying $30-$40 for what would be considered "vanilla" releases nowadays. My beef with the 06 release is it was a double-dip opportunity for Fox and Lucas to pull money out of the die-hard fans that almost certainly bought the previous DVD boxset release, only to get a sub-far version of the unaltered OT. The glue used to bind LaserDiscs is breaking down, but they can’t disappear. Both the cover and the disc itself need to be in excellent condition to command top dollar. That is due to improper glue cure time during the manufacturing process. There may well be discs "worth" $20 in there, but whatever. ” (Yes, commentary tracks first debuted on laserdiscs taking advantage of their discrete analog and digital audio tracks, and Criterion got it. I bought some Opera laserdiscs from the goodwill at $2 each. LaserDiscs abhor a vacuum, and we did their bidding by filling every possible space in that car. When I get to cherry pick I dont mind paying 5 bucks a disc. End of Days, a 1999 Arnold Schwarzenegger vehicle starring Gabriel Byrne as the Actual Devil, sold for a whopping $463 (or $695 Australian!) on eBay in 2001. $6. Not only is the TV much higher resolution than the laserdisc, it’s also much larger than anyone would have ever watched it in the 80’s or 90’s and it still holds up. Depth of frame is the only concern, I would think. Limited Issue:. I had a film class in high school in the late 90s. #21. Click on your “Start Menu”, type cmd in the search bar, then hit “Enter”. 3) Star Wars always sell well but for common releases £3-£4 per disc. Hi all, I don't own any Disney Laserdiscs myself and I don't have a Laserdisc player. Are old LaserDiscs worth anything? Your old LDs might be worth up to $250 or more. Chances are it's not worth the trouble of trying to sell it. And yea, not a record. Second round (late 2015): Somebody opens up a new electronics booth at my local flea market, with three crates of LaserDiscs at a dollar a piece. 1. Mostly my LD buying and selling is hit and miss. Not necessarily in the immediate future, but at some point in. or Best Offer. 99. $ 34. 0 coins. Some LD manufacturers are more prone to Laser Rot than others, so what I do is research if it's a disc with known issues and make a judgement call before buying. I would expect them to be removable from a US disc. They aren't CD's. How much are LaserDiscs worth? LaserDisc values run the gamut, anywhere from less than a dollar for common titles to $1,000 and up for rare collectible LaserDiscs. Are laserdiscs worth getting or am I better off with DVDs? Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by AxC. However, because of the Archive Collection Disney Laserdiscs I'm considering getting one. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. Both the cover and the disc itself need to be in excellent condition to command top dollar…. I have a laserdisc player and 12 laserdiscs. Fortune: Rare Barbies ($3,000 - $300,000+) Rare Barbies are another doll exception. Further, largely due to poor manufacturing quality of early discs, LaserDiscs were also susceptible to failing due to “disc rot”. $59. I have seen this sell for over $200 a couple of years ago. It may not be an x9 or anything but I think for the money and compared to many other players on the market it was a good find. You’d be lucky to fit a baseball card in that car by the time were were done. 99 for a single movie or maybe CAV box sets at $49. 13226 1972 NTSC USA. This player is able to support NTSC laserdisc signals internally and use Y/C with the 1st generation. Many are worth around $15, though it’s impossible to place an average value on classic cameras. Last visit was: Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:17 pm: It is currently Thu Apr 06, 2023 1:17 pmOne reason I decided to get into laserdisc is to archive films or directors commentary that hasn’t been released on other media. DVDs were smaller, cheaper. Michael Jackson shopping for LaserDiscs in LA (1996). My memory is that the S/N ratio was maybe 48dB on a good day; with DVD, the S/N was at least 10dB higher, roughly 55dB-58dB, which is a huge increase. Criterion titles had a premium putting them closer to $60 - although there were some CLV Criterions for 34. LaserDisc. Limited Issue:. Not pictured at home are She's Gotta Have It, David Holzman's Diary, and Show Boat. No question, pressings and players did get better by the early 1990s, but by then it was too late. it tanked more. Thread Status:. There have been some surveys suggesting around half of. 99. Anything over that I think it's quite idiotic. My advice: keep serching. Pioneer laserdisc players are the only ones worth anything, and only the best are worth a lot of money. The only way that is going to get damaged is if the PO runs over it, and anything that leaves the country or is over 50 bucks I insure. I live down the block from a amoeba which buys cds lds lps. This is why if you have anything important on a physical analog format, transfer it to digital as soon as you can. Board index » Laserdisc (movies, music, documentaries, anything) » General discussions - Laserdisc All times are UTC LD-G laserdiscs, worth getting a player/de-coder???Laserdisc capture to Blu-Ray. ago. Most LD's that sell for a lot. weaselriot, Aug 20, 2019 #886. Condition. I came to the conclusion, ‘You know, hey, I could be the king of LaserDiscs. It is sealed so I cant see for myself. : (. Nov 29, 2010. Location. Edit: other guy posted an LP framing site where the standard frame offered is like 14x14, seems a little big tho. You’ll be relieved to know that I didn’t pile anything on top of Apollo. Megadeth Rusted Pieces Japan Laserdisc with OBI Metallica LD Laser. Other discs I own notable for their picture quality would be: Fifth Element, The (1997) [82406], Queen: Greatest Flix I & II (1998) [PLMPD 01171] and Terminator 2: Judgment Day: Special Edition (1991) (Uncut) [PSE82997-6WS]. All players support analog audio, as it's part of the base standard. Find out. . Because the mechanisms are designed to deal with a 12" disc weighing about a pound,and up to 1800rpm,they are able to produce ultra stable CD playback. Limited Issue:. Some have surround sound audio and even special features/commentary. LaserDiscs that are still sealed and in mint or new condition are worth more money. Last visit was: Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:36 pm: It is currently Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:36 pmAre laserdiscs worth getting or am I better off with DVDs? Discussion in 'Visual Arts' started by AxC. 0 bids. The school system bought a bunch of laserdiscs and players right around the same time the format went kaput. A lot of them (or most) don't offer anything in terms of extras. Obviously not 4K but as clean and clear as I’ve seen. It is a THX system demonstration laser disc. 8 inches or something pretty close to 12. Show reply. ago. Whether you would like the results, or the workflow, is another set of questions. 122, which sold at a March 2018. I would. We discuss anything having to do with laserdiscs. The rim is about 3cm potato chipped. 10/29/96 Toy Story WS THX AC3 Sale Price $26. I'm in Annapolis Maryland. Nov 7, 2004. LD's were made sandwich style and as the two side were put together and glued, the air was sucked out. Ended. It was a LD/CD/DVD combo player. The only thing ever digital was the soundtracks and that was added much later in the life of laserdiscs hence many earlier releases being analog only. I don't want to just throw them out, but I wanted to check with you guys about ways to get rid of them. Reply reply. All I'm Missing Is You 4. So if it is worth it to you to invest to get the best picture and sound possible for some titles - do it. Yesterday and Today – The Beatles (the butcher album) $125,000. $34. Think a crappy record or cassette player VS a high end. 2 #1 on spine. Further, largely due to poor manufacturing quality of early discs, LaserDiscs were also susceptible to failing due to “disc rot”. Lately, they will only buy lds that are not on DVD. 45 K Vinyl. , Feb 15, 2014. Sometimes I can pay a little more if it’s something we need for the shop,” says Matthew Young, who purchases used Blu-Rays for CineFile, one of the world’s. 2) the erotica discs would go well. It isn’t worth a lot because Full Moon in 1997, but it is a rare release. Add a Comment. Are LaserDiscs worth anything? LaserDiscs that are still sealed and in mint or new condition are worth more money. But is this worth anything? Or is it garbage? also, what is the star wars laserdiscs worth (empire strikes back, etc. The force it took to spin the disc made a kind of whirring noise that can be quite distracting for some viewers. The Growth and. 97. Re: Alternative Colored Laserdiscs. If you'd rather sell, then perhaps go by this guide: Black/Silver Zune: Sell for 60 to 80 - Sell higher the less wear it has, and even higher if you have the original packaging. #840-849 4K Blu-rays added to the collection. 00 New. all Japanese versions. Last visit was: Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:27 am: It is currently Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:27 amLaserdisc is a video disk format from days long gone. Among the answers they found were that both Pulp Fiction and Blade Runner: Director’s Cut could actually fetch $1,000, and a copy of Tarsem Singh’s cult horror The Cell could easily line your pockets with a cool $2,500. 5. Are old LaserDisc players worth anything? The only laserdisc players that are worth anything are the Pioneer’s and only the best ones are worth a lot. Board index » Laserdisc (movies, music, documentaries, anything) » General discussions - Laserdisc. As you can see, collectors are only willing to pay around $20 to $50 for many of the top wish list items. 67 shipping. $38. The CLD-59 was behind those and I had a 406 at one point and that was behind the CLD-59. Post subject: Disney Laserdiscs - Are They Worth It? Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 8:14 pm .